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Fax
07-10-2008, 08:18
Both Public Servers are offline until I start receiving regular donations.

I am not willing to pay for these anymore.

Figgles
07-10-2008, 13:43
come on all you "sick gamers" get some cash for fax!!!

Fax
07-10-2008, 15:05
so far this year the price of running the servers is £1000, i've personally paid out £700 leaving only £300 in donations, however as of late since chris/matty/wolfy left, the donations seem to be getting rather dry. currently the only people donating are remo & purdy

i'm not asking for everyone to pay for it all, but i want regular donations to cover at least 1/2 of the cost, cause the way i see it everyone wants something for free, but i'm afraid its not gonna happen anymore

Purdy
07-10-2008, 15:36
I agree, that was my advice ofc

Purdy
07-10-2008, 15:38
come on all you "sick gamers" get some cash for fax!!!

multipost here

but you should pay even tho you have nothing to do with SD

and especially kickass and nile should pay

Adage for the ginormous cock you are, you should pay

wisso
07-10-2008, 16:11
Both Public Servers are offline until I start receiving regular donations.

I am not willing to pay for these anymore.

i guess u guyz need a server provider cheaper then the one u are using per slot ...

here http://www.invision-gaming.co.uk/pricing/game-servers.html
234.36(GBP/£) per year 100 tik / 22 slots =)

or a way to make money online to auto-finance the servers
what about google ad or something

personaly i can donate 5/ Months =)

Fax
07-10-2008, 16:13
the providers are the best in the uk and very good pricing £75 dedi £40 2 x match servers.

tbh its all about ppl helping out, thats what we need :)

wisso
07-10-2008, 16:22
the providers are the best in the uk and very good pricing £75 dedi £40 2 x match servers.

tbh its all about ppl helping out, thats what we need :)

here http://www.invision-gaming.co.uk/pri...e-servers.html
234.36(GBP/£) per year (30% off) 100 tik / 22 slots =)
27.9/months

when i was cl of enxgaming i had cheap servers cba with paying 3/4 of my money on pricy ones :s

Purdy
07-10-2008, 16:26
even a fiver from like 10 people would help alot im sure

Fax
07-10-2008, 16:31
here http://www.invision-gaming.co.uk/pri...e-servers.html
234.36(GBP/£) per year (30% off) 100 tik / 22 slots =)
27.9/months

when i was cl of enxgaming i had cheap servers cba with paying 3/4 of my money on pricy ones :s

best thing with the dedi we got is the ip range, 82 is very popular with uk & european players and will get displayed on the public listing alot more often than other ip ranges, plus with a dedi u can always change what game / mods ur running etc

even a fiver from like 10 people would help alot im sure
idd that would help out ALOT

wisso
07-10-2008, 16:33
best thing with the dedi we got is the ip range, 82 is very popular with uk & european players and will get displayed on the public listing alot more often than other ip ranges, plus with a dedi u can always change what game / mods ur running etc


idd that would help out ALOT

that would explain alot :P i didnt get many players on
hmmmmmm okay ill donate at the end of this week promisssss =)

Fax
07-10-2008, 16:36
cheers dude :)

as i said b4 i don't ppl to pay for everything i just want regular donations :)

Taterz
07-10-2008, 16:46
I would like to donate, but I have no regular income at the moment. All I can say is by removing the public servers, you get less publicity, less advertising, and then less donations.

You just have to hold up through the rough patch, instead of bailing like this.

Fax
07-10-2008, 16:57
i know, problem is i've tried the stalling in the past and it did help for that month but soon after it goes back :(

i'm gonna put the servers back up for now, but i will advertise admin for money for public players as i don't think i'm gonna get far with the current clan members :(

Purdy
07-10-2008, 17:14
Fucking disgrace, team one should all have to pay for having such privlages, dont put them back fax it is costing you way too much man

GJ Holy

Kickass
07-10-2008, 17:31
Purdy, FUCK OFF

Holy
07-10-2008, 17:32
Heh, i just came on vent fax goes got any money, so i donated £20, but not everyone has money so i understand some people actually cant pay up :P

Grim.uK
07-10-2008, 17:36
im poor.

Purdy
07-10-2008, 17:38
Yea but a fiver a month from people would be nice, its fairly easy to scrounge 50p a day from somewhere tbh

Figgles
07-10-2008, 19:04
Purdy, FUCK OFF

The truth hurts, doesnt it.

OoZa_MuG?
07-10-2008, 20:20
i got paid friday, i have £637 atm, want some do ya? do ya want some fax?

sally
07-10-2008, 20:41
I'm in debt at the moment (I work for free, boss say's i'm far to ugly to be paid)

So when i sort my debt out, i'd chip in a fiver a month or so no probs. After all, i do love playing on the dust2 server.

Fax
07-10-2008, 20:42
plz :) - i'll send u some slammin vinyl :)

Grim.uK
07-10-2008, 21:14
your not black

Kickass
07-10-2008, 21:15
The truth hurts, doesnt it.

Dont see you doing much :)

volume
07-10-2008, 21:46
Beef

Purdy
07-10-2008, 22:01
Dont see you doing much :)

he never uses vent/servers or anything just the forums thats why, you whore them all

hummingman
07-10-2008, 22:08
Priviledges?

I'll Paypal you a tenner when you gimme the details Fax. Bare in mind I'm a student with no student loan though :(

Kickass
07-10-2008, 22:36
he never uses vent/servers or anything just the forums thats why, you whore them all

I help run the whole clan in general, i used to give £20 a month for ages ... before most of you did

Taterz
07-10-2008, 22:58
Purdy @ Stfu.

Just because they can't give the money doesn't mean they don't contribute in 1 way or another. Just because you have some cash to throw around doesn't make you so 'high and mighty'. If you actually wanted to help out you'd ask POLITELY (because demanding wont get you anywhere sir) for donations.

I will donate a couple bob when I get a job, I'm on SD a good 6 hours a day or so :S.

SOMEONE BUY ME AN RL TOO?

Fax
07-10-2008, 23:29
dont' take it personally its just the way purdy is, he did speak to me before hand about making this thread and i did agree for him to post it, his just voicing his opinion - i know naming ppl isn't the sort of thing i'd do, but then purdy just says wats on his mind

but there are gonna be some changes to how the servers are maintained / setup etc. so watch this space :)

Figgles
08-10-2008, 00:02
I think just about anyone could scrape up a fiver and fire it over paypal to fax every month.

Phoenix
08-10-2008, 00:19
tbh if i didnt have admin the public server would be a mess.

Kickass
08-10-2008, 08:02
tbh if i didnt have admin the public server would be a mess.

I would agree if your name was exile

eXile
08-10-2008, 08:57
sorry fax babes

can hardly come around atm
and since my sisters gonna study next year aswell
i gotta do with half the money i have now, since my parents cant support me anymore then

sally
08-10-2008, 09:08
Why don't you run a monthly tournament for the clan and public players.

So say, (FOR EXAMPLE) public player on the server with most kills at the end of the 30 minutes recieves prize money of £50 straight up, if 20 people chipped in a fiver each to jump into the tournament that's £100, 2nd and 3rd place gets to enter the tournament for free next month.

So you've just made £50 for running a tournament, do this for 12 months and you've just made £600 / £1000. Obviously this is a suggestion with no thought put into it, you'd have to think about getting a list of players who would be up for this, admins to watch over the tourny etc. You'd probably even have to go to valve for a license (they're almighty sad like this).

Even if it's just clan members and close community members / public players, i'm sure a few people would be interested in doing this.

Plus it's easy pickings for me. I could do with an extra £50 a month =)

Fax
08-10-2008, 12:24
sorry fax babes

can hardly come around atm
and since my sisters gonna study next year aswell
i gotta do with half the money i have now, since my parents cant support me anymore then
no probs m8, i don't want to put any1 out of pocket, however theres a few new ideas we got to help get the cash flow coming a bit better :)

Why don't you run a monthly tournament for the clan and public players.

So say, (FOR EXAMPLE) public player on the server with most kills at the end of the 30 minutes recieves prize money of £50 straight up, if 20 people chipped in a fiver each to jump into the tournament that's £100, 2nd and 3rd place gets to enter the tournament for free next month.

So you've just made £50 for running a tournament, do this for 12 months and you've just made £600 / £1000. Obviously this is a suggestion with no thought put into it, you'd have to think about getting a list of players who would be up for this, admins to watch over the tourny etc. You'd probably even have to go to valve for a license (they're almighty sad like this).

Even if it's just clan members and close community members / public players, i'm sure a few people would be interested in doing this.

Plus it's easy pickings for me. I could do with an extra £50 a month =)
lil tournaments could be a good idea, will think about this :)

volume
08-10-2008, 15:24
or do a 5on5 tournement like the i series loser tournement 32teams £5 a team
£160 thn split to winner/ runner up

£70 - winner
£30 - runner up

Soul
08-10-2008, 18:50
God Andrew soon as i get paid you take it all from me, your so selfish Andrew....

Holy
08-10-2008, 21:25
but bin men get paid alot ? :ppp

OoZa_MuG?
08-10-2008, 21:52
its like a forum full of hate

Soul
09-10-2008, 18:17
Seriously Matt stfu your really pissing me off with this.

Figgles
10-10-2008, 08:17
Seriously Matt stfu your really pissing me off with this.

QQ

Soul
10-10-2008, 17:25
Figgles you bum stfu and start donating your one of the oldest clan members, stop being a fat git and help.

Purdy
10-10-2008, 22:56
1.figgles doesn't use vent
2. he doesn't use servers
3. he isnt a clan member

Fax
11-10-2008, 01:14
i know figgles doesn't come on vent / servers anymore but i still class him as part of the clan, but as i've said b4 i don't expect any1 to pay, only if u can :)

Holy
11-10-2008, 11:37
take a joke soul :P

Taterz
11-10-2008, 11:58
The new changes suck :(.

Custom skins is 1 step away from Quake sounds and de_dolls. As well as Auto-Assign only fucking up the team balance. It's public, as soon as 1 team gets stacked now that's it for 20 minutes. Being able to choose your own team made things more balanced, as the better on the teams can switch to the other team to even things out a bit. Plus now the losing team will never have enough for an AWP, you can't expect people to eco it on public.

It was fine a week ago, now it's just another kiddie server, no different from the others. The reason SD always stood out to me was because it was a stand up basic server, with the extra money boost so you were able to actually carry a team every round. Now it's just a mediocre pub server with better servers out there :/.

The more you drive the server+site forward for the worst, the more you'll lose the older players. And it's the older players who are most likely to help out & donate.

Change it back please :(.

CatcH22
11-10-2008, 13:18
i agree with a lot of what taterz is saying. I feel the more you police a server in terms of not allowing ppl to make their own choices etc detracts from wanting to return to that server. For example i loved rasta DM, i would go on and try out diff sense's get to like 100 frags then retry with another sense and start again, now when u do that it slays u every other time u spawn for playing the same round. Stupid addidtion just come some admind didnt like ppl retrying.

Anyway stuff like skins and stuff i dont see a problem, at the end of the day cl_minmodels sorts tht.

Im sure u guys will find a happy medium once you get some more feedback ;]

hummingman
11-10-2008, 16:00
hummingman's expert tips:

1. Allow people to choose teams
2. No 'special things' i.e. free nades for admins
3. Could we plz have an 'admin' skin so I feel specialz, I think they have it on Aerelon
4. Fun Options plz!
5. Oh also please bring back the autoslay for people left at the end of the round who didn't bother trying to defuse etc - people moaned to begin with but now they're like "no autoslay? bring it back plz"

These recommendations should be enacted immediately and without hesitation, kthx

Taterz
11-10-2008, 16:57
What do you mean by 'fun options'?

hummingman
11-10-2008, 18:41
Slap, slay etc

Soul
11-10-2008, 19:37
hummingman's expert tips:

1. Allow people to choose teams
2. No 'special things' i.e. free nades for admins
3. Could we plz have an 'admin' skin so I feel specialz, I think they have it on Aerelon
5. Oh also please bring back the autoslay for people left at the end of the round who didn't bother trying to defuse etc - people moaned to begin with but now they're like "no autoslay? bring it back plz"

These recommendations should be enacted immediately and without hesitation, kthx

agreed.

Taterz
11-10-2008, 20:19
I get abused by the admins enough though :( :P.

Fax
11-10-2008, 22:11
only problem is, if we change the settings then theres nothing we can other for ppl to donate other than admin and i don't want to give out admin to random ppl as it will most likely cause alot of problems, however clan members / donaters (that i know) will have greater admin - which I haven't yet changed, I will probably put the "fun options" back on, but we need to keep the settings to help generate funds :)

hummingman's expert tips:

1. Allow people to choose teams
2. No 'special things' i.e. free nades for admins
3. Could we plz have an 'admin' skin so I feel specialz, I think they have it on Aerelon
4. Fun Options plz!
5. Oh also please bring back the autoslay for people left at the end of the round who didn't bother trying to defuse etc - people moaned to begin with but now they're like "no autoslay? bring it back plz"

These recommendations should be enacted immediately and without hesitation, kthx
1 - will leave settings as they (per my notes above)
2 - same as no.1
3 - am looking for some atm, but most cause alot of errors to appear in console, but i do want special skins aswell :)
4 - will do :)
5 - forgot about that, will put back on :)

I get abused by the admins enough though :( :P.
don't worry ur immune from the sillyness :)

OoZa_MuG?
11-10-2008, 22:19
blatently got to have the skin with the normal ct with "Admin" written on the back, or SD-Gaming or something, i would pay to have that. tbh fax, i have my solo card now so im willing to donate monthly, its just i dont play games anymore, make something big exciting and attractive that will make me worth paying for!

Fax
12-10-2008, 02:55
got the std. admin skins (http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/31409) added to the fun server, is only 7mb to download so its pretty gd considering its 8 skins, will get added to d2 server tomorrow some time :)

OoZa_MuG?
12-10-2008, 10:18
whats that fax..u got std's?

Fax
12-10-2008, 13:02
yea from ur mum :p

Taterz
12-10-2008, 14:24
I think it's herpes^.

But Fax, it's actually boring being put onto a stacked team, then it's boring against a team that's stacked. Either way with this new Auto-Assign thing you'll get 1 stacked team every time. Being able to choose really made the server 10x better, as you could balance the teams out by choosing where to go.

It feels like you're either playing a war against Low skilled (Boring and pathetc), or you're playing against SALVO (Boring and frustrating).

Honestly, it's a lot more then just Auto-Assign, and it's making the server really boring.

Ooza, that avatar is hypnotic.

Soul
12-10-2008, 15:24
Seriously fax get rid of auto assign it is shit.

Fax
12-10-2008, 17:13
if i remove auto-assign, wat should be put in its place for donators to get, as its got to be appealing otherwise no1 will do it

Taterz
12-10-2008, 17:18
People who currently donate don't want it there, and people who don't play on it wont play on it because of the Auto-Assign thing to begin with.

Faxxxxxxx, you're just scaring people away from the server. Listen to Hummingman on this case.

Fax
12-10-2008, 17:21
i understand that its frustrating, but we need to have something appealing to people to want to donate

i have no problems removing it, but something else needs to be put in place to pursuade more ppl to donate

Taterz
12-10-2008, 17:55
Being able to choose your team isn't a major bonus, you can do it on any normal server, so just that minor factor isn't going to persuade anyone.

Imo:

1) Admin skins, make them have SD-Gaming on the back, that way it's something only your server offers. Which then makes it more appealing to donate to you guys over everyone else. You can ask around on other sites on how to, or if anyone is willing to make it. I think it'll just be a matter of changing the .PSD file on an existing skin and changing the text from "Admin" to "SD-Gaming".

2) I guess being able to slap & shit people will be handy. This way you can deal with those people who insist on sitting on ramp with an Auto-Sniper every round ^^.

3) Normal admin abilities, kick, mute, cash, etc, etc.

4) Admins start money increase from £2,000 to £2,500. This way as long as they go to spec & back, they'll be able to buy AWP/AK+Armour every round. It's a safety net I guess. No more eco rounds for them.

5) Remove the auto-slay at the end of the round for them? Not sure if that's doable, but at least then they can save their weapons if the odds are stacked against them too high.

Just remove the Auto-Assign crap :(.

Fax
12-10-2008, 18:06
Being able to choose your team isn't a major bonus, you can do it on any normal server, so just that minor factor isn't going to persuade anyone.

Imo:

1) Admin skins, make them have SD-Gaming on the back, that way it's something only your server offers. Which then makes it more appealing to donate to you guys over everyone else. You can ask around on other sites on how to, or if anyone is willing to make it. I think it'll just be a matter of changing the .PSD file on an existing skin and changing the text from "Admin" to "SD-Gaming".

2) I guess being able to slap & shit people will be handy. This way you can deal with those people who insist on sitting on ramp with an Auto-Sniper every round ^^.

3) Normal admin abilities, kick, mute, cash, etc, etc.

4) Admins start money increase from £2,000 to £2,500. This way as long as they go to spec & back, they'll be able to buy AWP/AK+Armour every round. It's a safety net I guess. No more eco rounds for them.

5) Remove the auto-slay at the end of the round for them? Not sure if that's doable, but at least then they can save their weapons if the odds are stacked against them too high.

Just remove the Auto-Assign crap :(.

i'm planning on adding some admin skins, however changing just the skin doesn't work - for server side skins, as u need to modify the models aswell, I did try this the other day for a few hours and couldn't get it to work properly as you need to decompile / modify / recompile and it just wouldn't work :(
i'm gonna keep trying to get this as it would be friggin awesome :D

i wanted to try and keep away from giving random ppl admin - as i know it would get seriously abused at times

vips get extra £2k each round atm :)

i would remove the auto slay but i had alot of ppl requesting it to help stop campers, although slaps in its place could help, although this would need ppl to maintain it alot more

Taterz
12-10-2008, 18:25
Oh, I didn't know admins got an extra 2K. I always thought eXile just got an SMG all the time in the 1st round instead of buying armour LOL. What a nub :D

What I meant about the auto-slay was that admins just didn't get killed, whereas a normal player does. If you were to take it away entirely, it means someone will have to be constantly be policing it.

Have you removed the Auto-Assign yet? So I can go bax on ;o.

Fax
12-10-2008, 18:47
yea auto-assign is off atm, however the auto-slay thing is a bit tricky, as mani doesn't give the option to give immunity from it, so i'll need to either write a script myself or find one (although i couldn't find 1 myself the other day)

hummingman
12-10-2008, 19:34
Hmm server is good atm, I like the changes. Only issue I still have with it is the point based rank system - I could be on for 10 minutes, say have + 60 points, and I get killed by some guy who just joined the server twice. Although he's not ranked he could be the best player ever, and by killing me twice puts my score down to about -1000

98p
12-10-2008, 21:24
yeah i agree, there should be a no point loss system :)

Fax
12-10-2008, 21:40
np - updated :)

hummingman
21-10-2008, 18:04
Where's my Admin skin Fax? :(

remo
21-10-2008, 18:39
lol, is'nt darth vader good enough?

wisso
21-10-2008, 18:52
i understand that its frustrating, but we need to have something appealing to people to want to donate

i have no problems removing it, but something else needs to be put in place to pursuade more ppl to donate

lol who is teaching u marketing @ fax :P
i think my idea about phone payement is the best one ever =) cuz kids dont have paypal or still dont even know it 8-)

i think this clan should get a warcraft server then get addictive players to get on then do the ad about donating for admin =) like most community clan's
it does work previously tried it

Fax
21-10-2008, 19:25
eventually if i get regular donations, i'll try get the dedi upgraded to a quad core 3.something ghz with that we'd be able to host another 2 servers, i'd personally like a dm & gungame / rpg setups :D

Fax
21-10-2008, 19:26
Where's my Admin skin Fax? :(

its working all ok on the fun server, will get the basic ones added on the d2 server soon, i just keep forgetting :(

Soul
21-10-2008, 19:32
I want my desert skin on d2 pub plox.

Fax
21-10-2008, 22:49
wont add that skin as it gives way too many errors, but i'm gonna get the normal skins with admin written on them added ;)

Soul
23-10-2008, 15:36
I want my desert skin!!!!

hummingman
27-10-2008, 18:47
Where's my Admin skin Fax? :(

......................... :)

Fax
27-10-2008, 21:18
just worked out, if we add the 4 ct & 4 t admin skins its 7mb that every1 has to download b4 they can get into the server, should we just add 1 or 2 from each side or search for some more non-error giving server side skins ?

Purdy
29-10-2008, 16:08
just worked out, if we add the 4 ct & 4 t admin skins its 7mb that every1 has to download b4 they can get into the server, should we just add 1 or 2 from each side or search for some more non-error giving server side skins ?

OMFG ARE U SEREAL?

Fax
29-10-2008, 18:03
nice sig you got there purdy :p

Purdy
29-10-2008, 18:12
nice sig you got there purdy :p

and its staying too

Figgles
29-10-2008, 21:27
i highly doubht that

Taterz
04-11-2008, 01:22
OMG TATERZ IS POSTING AGAIN TO MOAN ABOUT MOAR.

SRSLY.

Just wanted to say like, the whole bodies turning into dust thing is harsh on shitheads with bad computers. Basically, when you spec somebody that dies you get a little glitch where your screen will jump until you go to spec somebody else. People with naab graphics cards/old drivers will get the hl2.exe bug.

hummingman
04-11-2008, 10:10
sux2bthem

Taterz
08-11-2008, 21:22
Why is Auto-Assign back on..? :/

Fax
20-11-2008, 09:45
sorry this shouldn't be on, i've got the next update of my script i'll be uploading tonight should get this removed

Taterz
22-11-2008, 13:05
Hah, glad I decided to check here then :P. I stopped playing SD 'cause of it, was ghey. Hard to find a replacement to it.

Taterz
22-11-2008, 17:18
Apparently Fax is full of lies and never removed Auto-Assign :( .

Fax
22-11-2008, 18:18
shud be sorted now :)